tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1536634109450452533.post1901473461090968148..comments2023-05-11T01:37:51.811-07:00Comments on dedrop: Industry vs. ResearchPedro DeRosehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14833075200638108981noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1536634109450452533.post-33649935706958553142017-07-06T04:32:12.295-07:002017-07-06T04:32:12.295-07:00I have long found a real recipe for success, espec...I have long found a real recipe for success, especially if you are constantly busy with something, but you need to search or research some things <a href="https://www.customresearchpapers.us/" rel="nofollow">research paper writer</a>. This allows you to not waste precious time and always be aware of new and necessary things for business.AngelaMetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11075691290707753030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1536634109450452533.post-21879051374413392772010-10-18T05:40:55.544-07:002010-10-18T05:40:55.544-07:00It's all on an individual person, some people ...It's all on an individual person, some people think that they can learn more things through research whereas some says that they can learn while working in industry. One who takes interest is always able learn something in either of the field. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.d2moto.com/c-477-street-bike-parts.aspx" rel="nofollow">Street Bike Parts</a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15970943279173155998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1536634109450452533.post-11491560781213906612009-01-06T12:35:00.000-08:002009-01-06T12:35:00.000-08:00Thanks - glad you liked the comment. Your very int...Thanks - glad you liked the comment. Your very interesting post inspired me to new long-winded heights. :) <BR/><BR/>One comment: Although I presented the "papers as quality assurance documents" viewpoint, I definitely agree that they are also stories - stories designed to market the authors, their lab, and their approach to a problem. <BR/><BR/>I think this is probably the most important thing for a would-be grad student to understand. Top undergraduate students (the people who get into grad school) tend to think technical mastery alone should be enough to succeed because that's what they experience in their technical coursework. However, the most successful professors I know are all masters of marketing and political campaigning. Of course as "serious scientists" most don't like to talk about this aspect of their work and the soft skills it entails - like story creation and presentation.Anne Whitsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00819296130172994397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1536634109450452533.post-33263151602814019462008-12-28T22:19:00.000-08:002008-12-28T22:19:00.000-08:00Thank you for the fantastic comment, Jim!I agree e...Thank you for the fantastic comment, Jim!<BR/><BR/>I agree entirely that papers are not products. I think of them as a medium for telling, and selling, stories.<BR/><BR/>Part of this story is often a description of novel IP (though not always; consider surveys). However, it's usually more than just that. For instance, a dry but technically complete description of ground-breaking IP may make for an unpublishably bad paper. And while funding agencies certainly fund research for IP, academic researchers are generally measured by their publications (amongst other things, of course).<BR/><BR/>Thus, selling stories is still quite important. After all, IP is of less use to an academic if they can't publish it...unless they go into industry and start selling it in a product. :)Pedro DeRosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14833075200638108981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1536634109450452533.post-91989707466201542742008-12-10T03:00:00.000-08:002008-12-10T03:00:00.000-08:00Got my Ph.D. in CS ten years ago at one of the UC'...Got my Ph.D. in CS ten years ago at one of the UC's. I can see how the "product" versus "paper" distinction is a good way to explain to a newbie what they would be spending most of their time doing in each world. However, treating papers as products may ultimately be misleading. Consider who actually pays for the papers? In my experience, these are funding agencies, typically governmental. What do they really want out of the papers? Well, many peripheral things actually, like the development of specialist communities in various fields for defense and industry, but arguably the most tangible product of basic research is intellectual property. This IP is typically owned by the university with a free license going to the funding agency that supported the research. At UC, if an invention in a paper was deemed valuable, the Office of Tech Transfer could delay its publication. So I'd argue that papers aren't "products", but quality assurance documentation, which if published in a peer-reviewed journal, means the IP is (hopefully) validated. I think you can also argue that papers are advertising for the lab. If you get enough people linking to your paper (citations) you pop-up to the top of the grant agencies' search results. :)<BR/><BR/>BTW, I chose a third path you didn't mention - entrepreneurship! The main difference between this and "industry" (by this I mean big companies) is that if your product fails you have no income - this makes you very attentive to your users. You might imagine that if there is any time in this arena for research it must be very product-driven - and that's largely true - but there's also an enormous pressure to discover simple abstract solutions. Why? They cost much less to implement! For example, it took a lot work to implement and debug programming languages before context free grammars and their associated compilers came along in the 60's. The trick is limiting the time spent finding the abstract solution, or more typically, you find it before you start a company.Anne Whitsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00819296130172994397noreply@blogger.com